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On St George's Day, EU wipes England off map
England has been wiped off a map of Europe drawn up by Brussels bureaucrats as part of a scheme that the Tories claim threatens to undermine the country's national identity. The new European plan splits England into three zones that are joined with areas in other countries. The "Manche" region covers part of southern England and northern France while the Atlantic region includes western parts of England, Portugal, Spain and Wales.The North Sea region includes eastern England, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands and parts of Germany. A copy of the map, which makes no reference to England or Britain, has even renamed the English Channel the "Channel Sea". Each zone will have a "transnational regional assembly", although they will not have extensive powers. However, the zones are regarded as symbolically important by other countries.
German ministers claimed that the plan was about "underlying the goal of a united Europe" to "permanently overcome old borders" at a time when the "Constitution for Europe needs to regain momentum". The Tories are drawing attention to the plan today, St George's Day. Eric Pickles, the shadow secretary of state for communities and local government, said: "We already knew that Gordon Brown had hoisted the white flag of surrender to the European constitution. "Now the Labour government has been caught red-handed, conspiring with European bureaucrats to create a European super-state via the back door." The disclosure of the European map comes as a YouGov poll commissioned by The Daily Telegraph showed that one third of people want England to have its own parliament. Twenty per cent want England to be an independent country and for Britain to be broken up.
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Devolution has already happened. The trap door was irreversibly lifted by Tony Blair and company.
What you have to ask yourself here is the following: Who offers the best defence against being governed by the European Union, the United Kingdom or England?
It is now clear to me that the UK should be euthanized at the earliest opportunity in order to prevent any further encroachment by Brussels. Beneath the political surface there is a war going on between England and the EU, with the UK appeaser doing nothing more than mollycoddling the middle ground. The EU is intent on destroying England. England needs to defend itself.
I just can't see how the cat can be put back in the bag in regards to devolution but we can win this fight...any attempt to further dilute English sovereignty must be fought.
I'm sorry, but this is just a post of hysteria. It's an economic zone map, nothing more. A lot of crap gets thrown around about the EU. It's not the best institution by far and I am a firm believing in national sovereignty, but I am so fed up with these kind of ridiculous, spittle-flecked tirades that it sometimes embarasses me to be a reader of this site.
You'll excuse the spittle, but I do think the outrage justified. Saying that it's just economics is of course what everyone has been saying about the EU since it was called the Common Market. Note the article:
"Each zone will have a "transnational regional assembly", although they will not have extensive powers."
That strikes me as being a wee more ambitious than just an "economic zone map." I do agree with Neil that there is strength in Union.
If you do break up over there, I'm sure my Congress should be happy to accept England as the 51st State. You'd be happier with us than you would be in Europe.
If Britain does fall apart, heaven help us, its various bits are more than welcome to join the Dominion of Canada (as it used to be known). We even have a monarchy here too, you may have even heard of our current Queen, lovely lady...
Ironically the Canadian constitution makes it almost impossible for us to become an outright Republic. The only trick that might work is failing to proclaim Prince Charles when the time comes, which is the sort of thing an Australian Republican might do, but Canadian Republicans just aren't that clever.
I attended a committee meeting on options for English devolution and they noted that desire for an English assembly is spurious at best, and opinion is highly mixed. A lot of people would struggle to differentiate between the English Parliament and the British one (indeed, shouldn't historically the English one have the right to sit at Westminster, and the UK one be relocated? Not only that, but given the close ties between England and Wales, where they continue to be counted as a single administrative unit in a lot of ways, simply cleaving a line down what assembly has responsibility for what will be an enormous headache they're not sure will be successful nor tidy. It did indeed seem much more complicated than the press makes it out to be.
That, and the fact an English parliament would likely be conservative party dominated (whether that's a good or bad thing or not I leave up to the reader to decide), but it leaves the question open: if we devolve England too, what then would be the role of the UK parliament and government?
I for one am opposed to federation - England is just far, far too dominant. We're an unbalanced nation in economics and population. It would also greatly increase the demand for abolition of the Lords and replacement with some kind of assembly of state representatives. In addition, given the current attitudes in government, an English parliament would likely be unicameral, with PR voting, and all sorts of modern, reckless notions. Their existence in Edinburgh and Cardiff is sufficiently far from Westminster to reduce harm, but if it were in London too, I suspect our beloved constitution would dismantle rapidly.
People would have (indeed, I don't have)a clear idea what the dividing lines between the UK parliament and the devolved assemblies would be. It would be enormously damaging to the Union.
What about Cornwall? Are the Cornish going to get an legislative assembly?
Give England an assembly/parliament. Cornwall too, if you wish. Each regional assembly should care for their regions, and the UK Parliament should handle issues common to all regions, to include foreign relations and defence. Even Ireland would be better off coming into such a scheme, rather than being dragged down by the Continent.
The UK should always be separate from the EU.
I hope you're going to fight against this.
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